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FAQ's
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I have corrosion problems in the interior of my motor. Can Sunmatic
correct this problem?
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have corrosion problems in the interior of my steel-hulled/aluminum-hulled
boat. Can Sunmatic correct this problem?
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I have stainless steel freshwater holding tanks in my boat that are
isolated from the carbon steel hull but I have corrosion in the interior
welds where there is water. Does the protection system for the exterior
submerged parts prevent this?
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Is it necessary to isolate the grounding points in an aluminum-hulled
boat?
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the same current needed when a boat is moored at a marina as when it
is navigating?
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How do you protect a propeller and its shaft in port or in a marina?
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I have a steel hulled boat that has bubbles in the paint and water underneath
the paint but there is no visible corrosion. Can this be due to Galvanic
currents?
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I protect a fiberglass or steel hulled boat with magnesium anodes in
salt water?
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Can I protect an aluminum-hulled boat with magnesium anodes in salt
water?
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What advantages does DC current (continuous) have in powering the titanium
anodes over AC (alternating current)?
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Is it possible that use of a protection system of impressed current
will cause paint to peel off?
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I have a steel hulled boat that has bubbles in the paint and water appears
when I pinch them. In spite of the bubbles with water there is no visible
indication of corrosion. Are these bubbles due to cathodic protection?
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have heard that aluminum boats are especially sensitive to the installation
of cathodic protection systems. Can I use impressed current to protect
this type of boat?
QUESTION
1:
I have corrosion problems in the interior of my motor. Can Sunmatic correct
this problem?
ANSWER
1:
The protection system used for the submerged part of the boat does not
resolve this problem, although it sometimes can help a little. This is
because when all the metal on the boat is bridged or united in order to
protect it, this prevents vagabond currents from circulating throughout
the boat. If the corrosion is occurring inside pipes/tubes or interchangers
of saltwater circuits/conduits, then a specific system of protection for
pipes and tubes will be needed to protect them. In the case of corrosion
of freshwater circulating systems, this can be resolved by replacing the
system with a more resistant conduit (less conductive of current). This
is possible because a freshwater system is closed.
QUESTION
2:
I have corrosion problems in the interior of my steel-hulled/aluminum-hulled
boat. Can Sunmatic correct this problem?
ANSWER
2:
The interior galvanic circuit is independent of the exterior: a different
electrolyte. For this reason the interior of the boat is not protected.
Only if there was water in the interior and connected to another system
could this area be protected. The best solution is to keep the area dry
and well painted. In some boats where water in the bottom of the boat
tends to accumulate, sacrificial anodes are sometimes used in those zones.
QUESTION
3:
I have stainless steel freshwater holding tanks in my boat that are isolated
from the carbon steel hull but I have corrosion in the interior welds
where there is water. Does the protection system for the exterior submerged
parts prevent this?
ANSWER
3:
The protection system used for the submerged parts of the boat cannot
prevent this. Connecting the tanks to the grounding point along with the
rest of the metal parts can lessen the corrosion. It is a mistake to isolate
the tanks from the rest of the metal. Additionally, titanium anodes would
have to be inserted into the tubes and a protection system would have
to be designed using impressed current. If you used sacrificial anodes
to protect the tanks, they would dissolve and make the water non-potable
due to the existence of heavy metals.
QUESTION
4:
Is it necessary to isolate the grounding points in an aluminum-hulled
boat?
ANSWER
4:
No,
to the contrary, isolating elements increases the likelihood for corrosion
because we cannot control the potentials of the individual metals. To
protect stainless steel or bronze you have to arrive at a reading of a
minimum of -600mV. To protect steel you have to arrive at a reading of
a minimum of -800mV. To protect aluminum you have to arrive at a reading
of a minimum of -900mV (all measured using a silver reference electrode
- silver chloride). If we unite all the metals and at the same time connect
them to the negative of the battery we can situate the metals at the appropriate
levels of protection of -900mV by sending positive current through the
titanium anodes. This way all the metals will be protected; and this is
controlled through a corrosion monitor incorporated in the system.
QUESTION
5:
Is the same current needed when a boat is moored at a marina as when it
is navigating?
ANSWER
5:
No. They are completely different. Sometimes the current needed for navigation
can be double the amount needed in port. It is very important to determine
the protection needs for each situation. For this, a submersible reference
electrode is needed as well as a voltage meter to measure those needs.
Impressed current systems make it easy to adapt to any situation because
the system can adjust the power being sent to the anodes. An initial study
at the time of installation is the only requirement. The values determine
the adjustments necessary when in port or under navigation. These values
should suffice for the life of the system depending on the status of the
bottom paint.
QUESTION
6:
How do you protect a propeller and its shaft in port or in a marina?
ANSWER
6:
An alternative would be to install sacrificial anodes on the shaft of
the propeller in sufficient quantities or in the support nut of the propeller.
This solution creates various inconveniences however and can cause turbulence
due to the irregular dissolving of the anodes in the water. If the zinc
ring-anodes don't have a steel sleeve inside them, then the width of the
anode will continue to widen on the shaft producing damaging vibrations
and noise until the anodes break loose and fall off.
To
avoid these problems bronze rings should be installed on the shaft in
the engine room with special contact brushes placed over the rings. The
ring and brush transmit the negative current of the cathodic protection
system resulting in the safety of the propeller and shaft.
QUESTION
7:
I have a steel-hulled boat that has bubbles in the paint and water underneath
the paint but there is no visible corrosion. Can this be due to galvanic
currents?
ANSWER
7:
It's
very improbable. The most likely cause is probably due to bad paint application.
To remove all doubt, you could do a study to determine the status of the
protection when the boat is in the water. If the power readings show -1000mV
or more, it is not due to the currents because paints should be able to
resist up to -3000mV.without problems. Additionally, if the cause were
due to current, the bubbles would appear all over the hull not just in
zones, because electrical currents are wrapped all around the hull.
QUESTION
8:
Can I protect a fiberglass or steel-hulled boat with magnesium anodes
in salt water?
ANSWER
8:
It's not advisable due to the great activity of the magnesium and the
high negative potential of the anode. This causes the magnesium anode
to dissolve extremely quickly and it would only survive a few days. Also,
magnesium anodes are expensive and not very productive: barely reaching
56% effectiveness.
QUESTION
9:
Can I protect an aluminum-hulled boat with magnesium anodes in salt water?
ANSWER
9:
Not under any circumstance. Aluminum is protected within the following
range of
-900mV to -1150mV. and a magnesium anode in an open circuit has a reading
of
-1500mV. This can put the aluminum in a state of "overprotection"
resulting in a chemical attack of the aluminum due to the PH balance of
the cathode (the aluminium hull).
QUESTION
10:
What advantages does DC current (continuous) have in powering the titanium
anodes over AC (alternating current)?
ANSWER
10:
Because the system uses DC current, the batteries can be used as a power
source. The system uses sophisticated power regulators to control the
battery usage and reduce the consumption necessary to protect the boat.
The regulators send under 3 volts of current to the titanium anodes ensuring
a minimal drain on the batteries. The system also makes it impossible
to overprotect the boat. Even if someone were to turn the regulators to
full power, it would never reach a reading of -1200mV: a reading still
well below the point where paint begins to fall off.
QUESTION
11:
Is it possible that use of a protection system of impressed current will
cause paint to peel off?
RESPUESTA
11:
It is impossible for this to occur with systems that use pre-programmed
currents for port or navigation. This is because the system calculates
values that are never to pass below -1100mV either in port or under navigation.
Given that the limit for paints is above -3000mV, the possibility of paint
peeling or falling off because of the system is null.
Additionally
the Proytec system uses DC power and high tech equipment in order to ensure
the least amount of battery drain. The system uses minimal power, under
3 volts, and even if someone were to turn the system to full power, it
would barely reach -1200mV. This value is still way below the limit that
would cause the paint to peel.
QUESTION
12:
I have a steel-hulled boat that has bubbles in the paint and water appears
when I pinch them. In spite of the bubbles with water there is no visible
indication of corrosion. Are these bubbles due to cathodic protection?
ANSWER
12:
No. Cathodic protection with sacrificial anodes makes it impossible for
this scenario to occur with zinc or aluminum anodes (the only sacrificial
anodes that can be used in saltwater) because the maximum protection that
these anodes can provide is around
-1150mV. In the case of zinc anodes the maximum achievable protection
is
-1050mV. These described scenarios picture an absolutely perfect situation
where anodes are spread all over the hull (an expensive, difficult and
turbulence causing scenario) .
Commercial
bottom paints should resist up to -3000mV and in some cases up to
-4000mV. For this reason the cause for the bubbles should be searched
in the paint itself or in contamination during paint application.
To reach
those levels of dangerous current is very difficult (not impossible but
very unlikely) with impressed current systems and a series of events would
have to take place for it to happen:
- Failure
of automated control system (in automatic regulated systems)
- Short
circuit of positive reference electrodes for metal (only for silver
- Silver-
Chloride reference electrodes; (zinc reference electrodes don't have
this risk)
- Extremely
high current needs to be sent to the anodes (sufficiently higher than
the limit indicated to cause paint to peel)
- Using
protection that is oversized (or too powerful) for the size of the boat
to be protected.
Additionally,
all of these conditions would have to be in effect for a long period of
time to cause the paint to peel.
QUESTION
13:
I have heard that aluminum boats are especially sensitive to the installation
of cathodic protection systems. Can I use impressed current to protect
this type of boat?
ANSWER
13:
You can absolutely
use these protection systems for aluminum boats as long as the following
precautions are taken.
Aluminum,
like all metals, has its own characteristic minimum protection value,
in this case the value is -900mV (-650mV for bronze/stainless steel, -800mV
for steel, as measured by a Silver - Silver-Chloride electrode). The greatest
problem with protecting aluminum is overprotection by exceeding the determined
safe value (between -1200mV and 1300mV). The PH basis that would develop
due to overprotection would attack the aluminum chemically and would corrode
the metal even faster than through normal corrosion.
To protect
against this type of overprotection in this type of boat, the following
is recommended:
- Abstain
from using totally automatic protection systems because they depend
on a series of factors, none of which are reliable. In the first place,
these automatic systems are very sensitive to the frequent power spikes
found on boats (especially on fishing boats) resulting in repeated replacements
of these systems. Secondly, any oscillations in the electrode readings
(such as those caused by electronic noise typical on boats), causes
the equipment to apply or decrease power unnecessarily, given that the
status for protection has not actually changed.
Numerous
studies have shown that boats really only have two protection values
of concern: one in port and one while under navigation. These are
the only two situations where the danger of corrosion can vary for
a boat. It is much safer and reliable to use a system that is pre-programmed
or adjusted manually (with two settings: docked or navigating) because
they can be regulated never to reach those dangerous levels under
any circumstances.
These
automated systems also work with high power; precisely the risky situation
that we are trying to avoid in the first place (overprotection). For
this reason Proytec equipment uses oversized anodes that function
at extremely low power settings (under 2 volts), which not only save
electricity, but also eliminate the risk of overprotection of the
hull (regardless of the regulator settings).
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Situate
the regulator in a clearly visible location so that the current in
port or under navigation can be verified at any moment (ex. by using
the amp meter incorporated in Proytec's regulator).
- Situate
a power meter (measures readings) in a clearly visible location on the
bridge so that various readings can be compared (the current being administered
to the boat by the regulator to protect it versus the status of the
boat registered by the meter).
The Proytec
system was designed so that it would not pose any type of threat or danger
to an aluminum boat. For this reason, the system was designed from the
ground up and parted company with existing systems designed for large
ships. The main reason for this departure in design and theory is because
smaller boats or vessels cannot dedicate the same resources of energy
or human capital to maintain and oversee these costly automatic systems
in a responsible manner.
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Embarcaciones S.L. All rights reserved.
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